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Hebrews 12:7

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Translations sourced from the public-domain WEB, KJV, and ASV. See all sources.

“It is for discipline that you endure. God deals with you as with children, for what son is there whom his father doesn’t discipline?”

— WEB

“If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?”

— KJV

“It is for chastening that ye endure; God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is there whom [his] father chasteneth not?”

— ASV

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Commentary

In Heb 12:7-8 the need of "chastening" or "discipline" is inculcated; in Heb 12:9, the duty of those to whom it is administered. If--The oldest manuscripts read, "With a view to chastening (that is, since God's chastisement is with a view to your chastening, that is, disciplinary amelioration) endure patiently"; so Vulgate. ALFORD translates it as indicative, not so well, "It is for chastisement that ye are enduring." dealeth with you--"beareth Himself toward you" in the very act of chastening. what son is he--"What son is there" even in ordinary life? Much more God as to His sons (Isa 48:10; Act 14:22). The most eminent of God's saints were the most afflicted. God leads them by a way they know not (Isa 42:16). We too much look at each trial by itself, instead of taking it in connection with the whole plan of our salvation, as if a traveller were to complain of the steepness and roughness of one turn in the path, without considering that it led him into green pastures, on the direct road to the city of habitation. The New Testament alone uses the Greek term for education (paideia), to express "discipline" or correction, as of a child by a wise father.

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary (public domain)

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